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  • #14949
     robroy289 
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    Anyone have any suggestions on what is the best gage to wrap my own coils and where is the best place to get it…

  • #21445
     robroy289 
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    Wow guys!!! Where is everyone at??? Come on guys lets make this a hopping forum again…
    I mean share some wisdom to the newcomer…

  • #21446
     Ramenuzumaki 
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    not sure rob, may have to google it. I prefer 10wrap personally.

  • #21447
     robroy289 
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    I think 24 or 22 .. But my question is how much difference is there between the 22 and 24 gauge performance wise???

  • #21448
     Ramenuzumaki 
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    Im pretty sure the larger the gauge the more electrons move through the wire, the more friction there is
    i read something about it not long ago but i mostly skimmed it so i cant remember for sure

  • #21449
     brokenpipe 
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    the larger the gauge the more resistance brother. you can look up the amount in ohms online to get a number for your capacitor.ohms law is another good thing to look up when building simple circuits also. The more resistance the slower the coils will run or the more voltage you will need. Id do an 8 wrap for a faster moving machine with like 22 gauge wire . Id use the 24 on a 10 wrap to keep the delay and maybe even dwell time(time on) down. this is not from a tattooist’s experience but from an automotive stand point . its all the same 12v DC system lol. Id really like a how to class on the construction of the tattoo coils if anyone has it.

  • #21450
     Anonymous 
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    24 Gage Copper Wire, Some use 26. Stick with 24 though. Any electrical supply house. Look on Google for how to Wrap coils. Also, You-Tube Channels : Sin City Tattooz, Underground demographix, Tattoo Lann, All have Coil winding videos & how to build a Coil Winding Machine. I think Tattoo Lan.. :mrgreen: Bill

  • #21451
     Infamous 
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    You can buy coils pre-made for just a little bit more than materials and you won’t have to worry about screwing it up. It’s good to know how just in case, but its not going to save you that much money, really.

    Same with making your own needles. Sure you can, and its easy all you need is solder, but why? They are super-cheap just buy them and they are sterilized with EO gas, so as not to spread disease like a homemade needle probably would

  • #21452
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    You can buy coils pre-made for just a little bit more than materials and you won’t have to worry about screwing it up. It’s good to know how just in case, but its not going to save you that much money, really.

    Same with making your own needles. Sure you can, and its easy all you need is solder, but why? They are super-cheap just buy them and they are sterilized with EO gas, so as not to spread disease like a homemade needle probably would

    :arrow: Actually it is a lot cheaper to Layer your own Coils The Wire goes on in Layers. 8 Layers it is called 8 Wrap etc.. The Issue is Time. If it was not cheaper you would have a bunch of E-Bay sellers. they want to be machine Builders, But can sell coils. However it does take some time. Like making Needles you have to place a value on time. (ie) TVM. = Time Value of Money. Bill

  • #21453
     Anonymous 
    Member

    :lol: I also noted no one else knew the correct answer! yet after I post it.. They CHIME IN… HMM ENVY much.. Bill

  • #21454
     Infamous 
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    Good point to be made here, don’t buy anything from e-bay or amazon!

  • #21455
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    Good point to be made here, don’t buy anything from e-bay or amazon!

    That depends on the seller.. Some good Some Bad. I buy a lot of Chinese Knock offs from Alie Express – which is Alibaba’s retail sales. Both like amazon but Alibaba sells to Whole Seller’s Sea Containers at a time. Alie Express is Like Amazon with Free Shipping on most items bought directly from the manufacturer, They act as an intermediary, like amazon. So Does DH Gate another one I deal with. I Bought a machine for $20 including FREE Shipping. e-Bay Seller said it was a hand made machine for $125.00 or highest bid after that. So u have to know what u R looking at & what it is worth. picture enclosed. :mrgreen: Bill

  • #21456
     Infamous 
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    Well that machine looks like it could’ve been a good one at some point. Shame it’s owner didn’t take very good care of it though

  • #21457
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    Well that machine looks like it could’ve been a good one at some point. Shame it’s owner didn’t take very good care of it though

    Brand New Distressed Look on Heat Treated Frame… I’am sorry. I gather you have never seen an Aaron Cain. Machine.. Pitty I gather your shiny Hildibrant Chinese cheapo stainless steel looks good to you. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Bill

  • #21458
     Infamous 
    Participant

    lol yeah nice try, that thing was painted, the paint wore off, and now its rusting.

    And Hildbrandt’s are made in Canada.

    Strange that you’d be knocking “chinese cheap-o’s” since you seem to love them in all your other posts though.

  • #21459
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    lol yeah nice try, that thing was painted, the paint wore off, and now its rusting.

    And Hildbrandt’s are made in Canada.

    Strange that you’d be knocking “chinese cheap-o’s” since you seem to love them in all your other posts though.

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    The Fact you are So Stupid & Still Alive, Proves God Does Look out For Fools… Heat Treated Frames Easy to Tell. By Looking at the Blueing in certain sections & the Straw to darker brown tones…. Which any one that has been to a TATTOO Convention Would Know. Much Less an Established artist. The Fact You mentioned the equipment manufacturer you did as ” HIGH QUALITY ” shows a lack of education. Man U would not even get a foot in the door of my shop… I’am Not knocking Chinese Machines only Fools Who Over Pay for them. Only buy Cast & CNC Machined Frames. Stamped are Wonky. I know you can not re-build a machine much under stand frame geometry. & I Now Know You Do Not work in a Shop or even look at Tattoo Magazines.. Heat Treated Frames are every Where & distressed Heat Treated is Big $$$$$ & Noted: U did Know Who Aaron Cain was as well ! BILL

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  • #21460
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    lol yeah nice try, that thing was painted, the paint wore off, and now its rusting.

    And Hildbrandt’s are made in Canada.

    Strange that you’d be knocking “chinese cheap-o’s” since you seem to love them in all your other posts though.

    NO ASSEMBLED COUNTS AS BUILT ! LMFAO. Of Chinese Components. Now They do tune their machines, idiot proof. So They will run out of the box.. Bill

  • #21461
     Infamous 
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    Never said it was “high quality” either. Maybe stop putting words in other peoples mouths?

  • #21462
     Anonymous 
    Member

    @infamous wrote:

    Never said it was “high quality” either. Maybe stop putting words in other peoples mouths?

    I just stated what U Said ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • #21463
     robroy289 
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    @the mad reaper wrote:

    @infamous wrote:

    Well that machine looks like it could’ve been a good one at some point. Shame it’s owner didn’t take very good care of it though

    Brand New Distressed Look on Heat Treated Frame… I’am sorry. I gather you have never seen an Aaron Cain. Machine.. Pitty I gather your shiny Hildibrant Chinese cheapo stainless steel looks good to you. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Bill

    That machine is heat treated!

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