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August 16, 2013 at 5:32 pm #15543InfamousParticipant
I haven’t started yet, but I feel like I should and if I start this thread I will be more opt to do it. So there.
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August 19, 2013 at 1:30 am #25122JDawnPearlsMember
I wanna see!
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August 19, 2013 at 1:32 am #25123InfamousParticipant
Oh positive peer pressure.
I’ll get started on something tonight lol
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August 19, 2013 at 1:55 am #25124InfamousParticipant
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6959/c6oi.jpg
I already had the sketch done, but I added shading just now. Obviously not based on anything lol just out of my head
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August 19, 2013 at 1:46 pm #25125RamenuzumakiParticipant
its hard to see a real clear shading definition in that
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August 19, 2013 at 8:25 pm #25126InfamousParticipant
#2 Pencil and Rubbing the paper with my finger to spread the shade out
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August 19, 2013 at 8:38 pm #25127RamenuzumakiParticipant
maybe try making it a little darker :3
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August 19, 2013 at 8:42 pm #25128InfamousParticipant
Oh alright if you insist lol
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August 20, 2013 at 6:42 am #25129Lennart82Participant
When you do drawings like this, and you want to get as close to the real thing as humanly possible. Try not to smudge with your fingers. Use your pencils in a lighter way.
Remember you cant smudge a tattoo with your fingers ;)
And maybe its just me, but when I draw, I never touch the paper with my fingers. I very rare occasions, I use a paper stub. (Thats proberbly cause I use charcoal as a medium, and charcoal dust in a fingerprint? Then start all over, the drawing is ruined) -
August 20, 2013 at 12:00 pm #25130JDawnPearlsMember
I agree with Lenn. That is why I use a selection of pencils. The 2H is a great light pencils to help you “map out” where you need shadows and start the shading process. I love the HB because it is the one I use most for making the outline. I go in darker with 2B-4B where I have definitions and only use 6B if there is a super dark spot that the others can’t manage. Sometimes it will take a long time, but it always looks better when you use even strokes and consistency to make one shadow at a time.
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August 20, 2013 at 2:03 pm #25131InfamousParticipant
I’ve never used anything other than a plain number 2 pencil. Maybe it is time
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August 20, 2013 at 3:45 pm #25132RamenuzumakiParticipant
I use everything from 4H to 8B ^^;
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August 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm #25133InfamousParticipant
Kind of off topic but I like how we’ve made it to page 2 already and I’ve only posted one picture which doesn’t even count towards the lesson lol
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August 23, 2013 at 10:35 pm #25134InfamousParticipant
Meh. I still haven’t managed to go to the store and get those fancy pencils ;)
This is my first ever Koi, done with a #2. I think it looks so awesome, if I were more into Japanese culture I would get this done on my back. My only regret is that I ran out of paper and couldn’t finish the tail :(
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August 24, 2013 at 7:01 am #25135RamenuzumakiParticipant
looks good dude. theres a ton more detail, and shading values you can pop in there :3
I don’t have any of my work that’s just with an HB2 online anymore or I’d show you some examples ^^;
To get your DARK shading push REALLY hard to get the pencil to go as dark as possible and simply do a whipping motion as you shade. that will give you your gradient while doing your shades :3 -
August 24, 2013 at 11:34 am #25136InfamousParticipant
Thanks ;) And I will definitely do that
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August 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm #25137JDawnPearlsMember
you can still achieve similar shading effects with the regular pencil. Its just about how it interacts with the paper, i.e. hard pressure vs light pressure. You really want each scale to have a little bit of both, it helps it look more round and interesting. The best place on a Koi to practice gradient is the fin. The places that are narrow are darker, the spread out fin is lighter… etc. etc. Good lines!
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August 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm #25138InfamousParticipant
Thanks :D I was really trying to focus on not getting a lot of sketch marks on this :) And I plan on re-submitting this for the next lesson, but more complete
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August 26, 2013 at 6:01 am #25139Lennart82Participant
Its a solid backbone of a drawing.
But me have to agree, you can do alot more shading to this fishy. ;) You can really do tons of shadings with a regular HB pencil. Even stretch it as far as saying; you can do about 50 shades of grey here :P hahaha ahhh I know, cheap shot. Sorry, I just woke up ;) -
August 26, 2013 at 11:13 am #25140einvalentineParticipant
Infamous, I found this website a looong time ago when I was trying to find free drawing lessons (hey, don’t judge… I’m broke :lol: ). There’s LOTS of stuff on it, and it has been super helpful. http://www.drawspace.com/lessons
If you’re often like me and strapped for cash, I would be happy to mail you some different pencils and stuff. Let’s just say my husband often bitches about my obsession with art supplies ;) (considering I seem to have accumulated a small arsenal that has collected quite a bit of dust since I started college). Aaaaand not to mention I can always pick up extra stuff at the college store dirt cheap (I don’t allow myself to go in there unsupervised anymore :mrgreen: ). -
August 27, 2013 at 10:17 pm #25141geoffx1Member
how do i start from lesson one please
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August 28, 2013 at 12:33 am #25142InfamousParticipant
@einvalentine wrote:
Infamous, I found this website a looong time ago when I was trying to find free drawing lessons (hey, don’t judge… I’m broke :lol: ). There’s LOTS of stuff on it, and it has been super helpful. http://www.drawspace.com/lessons
If you’re often like me and strapped for cash, I would be happy to mail you some different pencils and stuff. Let’s just say my husband often bitches about my obsession with art supplies ;) (considering I seem to have accumulated a small arsenal that has collected quite a bit of dust since I started college). Aaaaand not to mention I can always pick up extra stuff at the college store dirt cheap (I don’t allow myself to go in there unsupervised anymore :mrgreen: ).That would be awesome! I’m gonna pm you my address :D
@geoffx1 wrote:
how do i start from lesson one please
Just start a new topic call it “geoffx1 lesson 1”, and do the assignment for lesson one there
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August 28, 2013 at 9:57 am #25143geoffx1Member
thanks Infamous
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August 28, 2013 at 2:56 pm #25144InfamousParticipant
Any time
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August 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm #25145geoffx1Member
Help me out please i might be being stupid but were do i get the info for lesson one im not sure were to get from.
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August 30, 2013 at 7:50 pm #25146InfamousParticipant
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September 2, 2013 at 12:26 am #25147InfamousParticipant
Not my best sketch, my line weight is all over the place, but nevertheless it is shaded
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September 2, 2013 at 9:06 am #25148einvalentineParticipant
I honestly think this is a good start, but it looks a bit rushed. Take your time. Lay out your idea lightly, then figure out where your light source is coming from… like clock positioning (1:00, 10:00, etc.) There are 6 basic types of light: highlight: the brightest part where the light hits the object(s) directly; light (or halftone): the overall shade of the object(s); shadow: where the light begins to bend around the object; core shadow: the darkest part of the object(s); reflected light: the light that bounces off of the ground or other objects; and cast shadow: the shadow that the object itself makes.
This may help… http://www.drawspace.com/lessons/view/b11
And so may this (there are 8 types of light in this video)… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWkdyQDsTY
I am cleaning out my “office” and gathering some supplies to send you. I have a few books that I found to be really helpful. Unfortunately, I haven’t found any H pencils to include (yet ;) ), but I do have a range of B pencils. I will try to get them out soon, but I’d like to finish cleaning first so I can include anything that I find helpful. :mrgreen: -
September 2, 2013 at 9:17 am #25149Lennart82Participant
Agreed. It looks a bit too rushed.
And thats an awesome lighting/shadow link :D I LOVE THAT DAGGER…… I need to draw that….. :D
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September 2, 2013 at 11:49 am #25150JDawnPearlsMember
@einvalentine wrote:
I honestly think this is a good start, but it looks a bit rushed. Take your time. Lay out your idea lightly, then figure out where your light source is coming from… like clock positioning (1:00, 10:00, etc.) There are 6 basic types of light: highlight: the brightest part where the light hits the object(s) directly; light (or halftone): the overall shade of the object(s); shadow: where the light begins to bend around the object; core shadow: the darkest part of the object(s); reflected light: the light that bounces off of the ground or other objects; and cast shadow: the shadow that the object itself makes.
This may help… http://www.drawspace.com/lessons/view/b11
And so may this (there are 8 types of light in this video)… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWkdyQDsTY
I am cleaning out my “office” and gathering some supplies to send you. I have a few books that I found to be really helpful. Unfortunately, I haven’t found any H pencils to include (yet ;) ), but I do have a range of B pencils. I will try to get them out soon, but I’d like to finish cleaning first so I can include anything that I find helpful. :mrgreen:This is excellent advice. The most important thing to remember is that the gradient changes constantly depending on your source(s) and that is why taking your time and adjusting regularly to compensate for the light source is so important. That takes time. Even just shading a block or a ball, they take time. The toughest one I did was an egg.
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September 2, 2013 at 12:07 pm #25151einvalentineParticipant
I know right? I love the perspective and the look of the wood grain. She did an amazing job with it.
Agreed Jess. My first semester drawing class, we had to draw eggs for homework. It usually took me about 3-5 hours, depending on how many eggs we had to draw. :? I didn’t want to look at another egg until the next semester lol.
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September 2, 2013 at 4:16 pm #25152InfamousParticipant
Ugh. Apparently I really suck at shading lol, I’m beginning to really hate this lesson, looking forward to the next one though.
I’m gonna give that drawspace thing a read through and see what else I can do. And yes, I definitely did not spend 3-5 hours on this, not even close, maybe like 15 minutes.
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September 2, 2013 at 6:00 pm #25153JDawnPearlsMember
Usually if I want to do well, and depending on the size .. an hour is the minimum I spend on shading. Its patience game at times. (Especially since I have an arm with tendinitis, I have to learn to relax and shade at the same time… so weird)… Also, what sucks for me when I start to lose my patience is I want to quickly get it done, but that is really the time you step back for a couple of minutes to re-group. Then return with a fresh eye. Rushing to the “end” never really does the same as just taking a break. Good Luck!
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September 22, 2013 at 2:33 am #25154InfamousParticipant
Maybe this one will count?
https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/1234581_10151727325289475_480793027_n.jpgIgnore the hat. I realize that part sucks. As well as the lines, but the shading looks good to me on the face.
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September 26, 2013 at 11:43 am #25155einvalentineParticipant
Ok, now I’m going to be a bit harsh… but constructively :) STOP doing that. Don’t tell me that something sucks, FIX IT. No one wants to hear how bad it is… we want to hear what you started with, and what you did to improve it. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS think craftsmanship. I should not be able to see his skull running through his brow bone. Where is your light source coming from? Upper right? Then show me no less than THREE shades. I still feel like you’re rushing… getting frustrated and calling it “good enough”. Stop it. Spend 15-20 mins, take a break, come back to it. Make your lights lighter, and your darks darker. Try practicing by setting up your own still life, and draw what you see. I think we should sentence you to egg-practice with charcoal… what do you think Jess? ;)
Watch this…http://youtu.be/V3WmrWUEIJo
Then this…http://youtu.be/J8hww6u3-G8
And this…http://youtu.be/aMYfu-LNZhU
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September 26, 2013 at 12:31 pm #25156Lennart82Participant
YOU TELL HIM :D:D:D:D
And agree…. Stop saying you suck… You WILL suck even more, if you constantly say that to your self, and dont do a thing about it ;)
NOW watch those vids.. Once you’ve done that.
Subscribe to Leonardo Pereznieto for more tutorials :D Thursday of Tutorial. Been with him for ages. Hes brillient.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_XBYqoiAOI
He used to design Super Cars, and is one of them who actually wants to help others ;)
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September 26, 2013 at 5:23 pm #25157InfamousParticipant
I don’t know why but I really enjoyed getting yelled at about this lol, okay I’ll stop posting suckish things! Next time I post something here I’ll be sure it will count, not well maybe this one might count, but absolutely sure and I’ll be shocked if you all tell me no.
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February 10, 2014 at 10:00 am #25158AnonymousInactive
I liked the heart shape one tattoo and the rather other tattoo designs are ok
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April 7, 2014 at 6:18 am #25159shibuParticipant
Verity ….
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