Jonathan Wright

[Jonathan Wright]

I know this is an old thread but I had been tattooing for 2 years already in a shop and I still really enjoyed that back. Id definitely give it a read if you need help tuning machines for different purposed, Yes i knew a lot of what was in the book but it still gave me a different perspective on a lot of things. I give that book a 5 out of 5 stars

[Jonathan Wright]

check out http://www.tattoomachineequipment.com STAY AWAY FROM THE CHEAP INKSTAR CRAP. Trust me any kit giving you 6 machines is junk (especially at 50 bux lol wtf?)

You need the look at the Hildbrandt Kits. Made in Canada & assembled in Washington in the US. Not chinese junk. I still use my .44mag liner over my liners I own that cost over $300. Only thing I ever changed was I added eikon springs. It’s a workhorse! The 109.99 – 139.99 and 189.99 kit all are VERY worth there price and not just some cheap BS. I got gifted the 139.99 kit because at least it came with useable decent ink unlike the 109.99 kit. Radiant Ink isn’t top of the line but it is made in the USA and Ive seen work I did using that ink 2 years later still looking really good. Right now I swear by Eternal Ink though

The 109.99 and 139.99 kit come with (1) “.38 Cal Shader” & (1) “.44 Magnum Shader/Color” plus a simple but consistent power supply. Those 2 machines alone are $50ea. The price of almost the whole kit. It has everything but green soap to get you up and running. Even practice skins so you don’t go screw people up while you learn so you can get an apprenticeship and get your journey going. They also have a decent Rotary Kit. Like I said though 2 machines. No artist cant get the job done with a liner and shader/color packer. Just learn how to tune them.

I have $300 DF Time Machines & a set of Danny Knights ($700 a pair) & to this day my go to liner is my OG Hildbrandt .44magnum liner & the only minor tweaks I’ve done is add eikon springs to it and that is it! That should say something about Hildbrandt. Also made in Canada & assembled in Washington in the US. Not chinese CRAP.

[Jonathan Wright]

Amazon, you can find ones a lil more then the $10 ones that use the same motor as a real bishop and it works like butter. Ive used the real deal and the knock off with the right motor in it is amazing at the price

[Jonathan Wright]

Ive heard/seen that done before but no one ever though to actually hit the pedal and run the machine so your also used to the vibration. My liner is very solid so the vibration is minimal but this would still help. One of the reasons I still prefer my coils over rotary machines is because i just love the sound of a machine tuned just right. Where it just humms along but is pushing plenty of power where I poorly tuned machine would need to be turned up to sound like a lawn mower to produce the same power of hit against the skin, My liners in the sweet spot.

What if a newbie was running a rotary that is basically silent without vibration? I guess then you wouldnt need it to create the simulation effect as much

[Jonathan Wright]

I know the machine your talking about on Amazon with almost 187 reviews and 4.5 stars. With a few extra parts changed I made an amazing set of liner/shader for less then $60 that could run circles around some high end builds. Those babies are in my back up collection. I had a pawn shop buy 2 off me for $200 because the owner also was an artist and tried them and couldn’t believe I would let them go for 100ea…. and they were $10 machines! You just gotta know how to tune machines well & what parts to swap out. The fact I sold a pair for $200 to an experienced artist is proof those machines are a diamond in the rough. The frame geometry and weight is just great.

BUT you have to admit those machines are the EXCEPTION not the standard to cheap POS chinese kits.

[Jonathan Wright]

Agree with below. You can build any frames up with the right parts to be great if they aren’t plated and you know tattoo machine geometry VERY well and all the technical aspects behind building (which by the way is an awesome hobby) but most newbies don’t know.

The Hildbrandt kit for 139.99 is perfect for a beginner. With minor tweaking to setup both the .44mag liner and .38 special shader run amazing. I still go to my 44.mag liner over my time machines and my set of Danny Knights that were $350 each! Also they are made in Canada and assembled and shipped out of Washington USE not CHINA. Also promo code “Inked4life” gets you 7% off at check out for anyone interested

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